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Posted: June 20, 2008
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My Location: San Francsico, Toronto
Miles Today: none - Total Mileage: none

To help organize this trip I created a Google Group. Everybody who thought they might consider going on the ride was added to the group. There were a few interesting things said and here are a few ... - Leo

Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 6:59 PM

Subject: [SLC to SF] How many miles do you plan to ride each day?

  If everybody wants to ride 120 miles a day we are going to have to schedule driving turns.

  If everybody tries to ride 120 miles a day we are going to have somebody in the hospital.

  Salt Lake City to Wendover (122 miles) was a lot of work but not that hard for me 3 years ago because I had just been riding 100 miles/day for 3 weeks.  Getting into that kind of shape will take some training.

  I'm going to plan for the whole thing each day, but if I don't get the training in I will make some game time adjustments.

  What's everybody else thinking?

  Leo

Hey Leo and gang,
I have no problem taking a share of driving but I hope to be in shape to do 5/6ths x 120 miles per day by the time we start. What did you do for your last trip? i.e avg speed, ride times between breaks, total riding time per day, etc.  Is 15-18 miles per hour avg reasonable?  - I'd like to shoot for a target speed during my training.  Lots of hills here in Tucson so I should be okay. Plus I expect you won't mind us drafting behind you to help lighten our load!!!
Edge

I was able to do about 10 miles each hour including breaks - not including
lunch which was usually about an hour and 1/2.   3 years ago anything over 14 mph for the day was pretty good.  There are hills and wind.  Nothing sucks worse than peddling as hard as you can and going 8 miles an hour downhill!  15-18 mph is optimistic unless you get lucky with the wind.  Out of SLC I did 14.2 mph to Wendover (http://www.housedog.us/bike bin/blog?Pid=A37)  at one point I remember riding into a pretty strong headwind.

When you are training you need to learn what happens to your body after 3 hours.  Your body can operate at really high levels for about 2 -3 hours (typical game length) and then you run out of gas and "hit the wall".  If you eat - before the crash - you can replenish your fuel and keep going.  As long as you do this and stay below some 80% threshold you can go forever. Here is an article with real technical terms:
http://www.ultracycling.com/training/recovery_ld_cyclists_part1.html - some good stuff in this.  The better shape you are in the higher work level your 80% will be.

Bottom line is anybody who does it correctly can ride 100 miles ... it may take a long time but you can do it.  Think of your body as a car ... give it

  Leo

Stuff about logistics ...

Bob and John, how are you planning to get your bike from the airport to the hotel? I'm renting a fibreglass bike box for the flight, and in my experience I haven't encountered a taxi or hotel courtesy van that is equipped to carry such a big load.

Leo, what time will you arrive? John and I get in shortly after 5.

 

Mike,

First, I am really glad that we have a different tread, so that I don't have to read the Leo is right in the e-mails (yes you were Leo, but enough is enough).

In Salt Lake City, you can hire a minivan taxi - I've seen them. Just ask for them. I think that minivan taxis are getting popular to transport supersized people nowadays. If not, you can probably put the case into the back seat area and sit in the front.

I am getting to the airport much earlier than you guys. I thought that I would get in early to check that everything is OK, and if required, to go to the local bicycle store to get parts fixed or replaced from the shipping. And also, to give the airlines enough time to get the bicycle to me on a later flight if it doesn't make a connection.

Bob

 

I did love seeing that "Leo was right" subject line. I really don't think you could say that enough.

I should be able to pick up John and Mike at the airport. I should hit SLC no later than 6pm. My goal is to get there earlier enough to check into the motel, have a shower and get to the airport.

Bob will likely have to be on his own but call me when you first get in. I may be close enough to make it worth hanging around.

I figure it will take me 10-12 hours and I want to take off as early as possible 4am-ish. It's a little over 700 miles and for a most of it I should be cruising at 80.

Leo

 

Hi Guys,

Have enjoyed training vicariously with you and hope to enjoy the trip as well if you have the energy to update the email site!

Hope everyone has lots of fun.

Lisa

 

Bob and I are just using bike shipping boxes. You can get them for free from any bike shop. They can be broken down and put on the floor of the van. Worst case, we toss them and pick up new boxes from bike shops in SF.

Does Leo have space for a fibreglass bike box?

John

 

The minivan is a Toyota Sienna. With the back row of seats out there is a pretty large cargo area. The cardboard boxes should be no problem and the hard case might fit on the roof rack. I put my bike whole in the van with the back seat out so at least one box of similar dimension should fit. Depending on the dimensions it might limit access.

Leo

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